Real-time notes from Locarno WG 2, Friday June 10 2005 Dennis Energetics - few notes, sorry, at the beginning Gallagher impassioned comment about how hard conductive losses are to estimate Fletcher, Gallagher, Hudson discussion of enthalpy term GOES (T, em) estimate => L_rad lower limit from CHIANTI SORCE 28-Oct results with GOES derivative CME vs flare energy, discussion about how this is done Radiative vs thermal energies, volumes Conclusions: flare/CME energies correlated; comparable; SXR energy 1% and radiated 10%; electrons & ions important; SORCE; Fontenla idea Paper in the works on October-November energetics Discussion of various ways to approach the energetics analysis, including radio astronomical techniques (Schmahl, Hudson, Gallagher); SORCE improvements via elimination of p-mode signal from MDI or GONG; EIT/TRACE... Fletcher: Discussion of possible summary papers 1) Energetics: Dennis can "crack the whip" on a next energetics survey Hudson to work on TRACE white light Pick, Schmahl on radio 2) Pre-impulsive-phase, 3-Nov-03 09:45 (Veronig?); Sui list of preflare candidate; caution about nature of pre-flare sources; Ed & Hugh to look at pipeline-generated spectro/spatial RHESSI survey; Monique to facilitate other data sets; Ji H-alpha 3) Coronal HXR