WG4 Friday morning session Sui * Oops - so interesting I forgot to start taking notes. * "Preheating" vs early spike RHESSI events Hudson: "preheating" is tendentious in view of SXT tendency for flare loops to start from empty regions * 3-6 keV impulsive profile in extreme event * Fe feature at 6.7 keV with no requirement for a thermal continuum (!) Fletcher, Dennis, Hudson * Modeling of evaporation: loop density, SHS, cutoff energy variation Ji Fletcher, Warmuth Warmuth - can we really go to 3 keV? Dennis - in A0 even, still must be careful. 5 1/3 keV lower limit usual choice. Fletcher - K escape? Explanation of K escape by BRD Hudson * Can't talk and type at the same time - see the published paper please, Solar Physics March 2006 Much discussion, including FLetcher material on energetics Dennis * Flare/CME energies: GOES L_SXR, L_hot, CME kinetic energy KE_CME from Gopalswamy * Analysis includes 64 CMEs and 138 GOES flares from the October 2003 interval; Flare ID by CME height-vs-time trajectory * Flare/CME start times => flares first +- * Flare/CME kinetic energies by component: pretty good correlation between KE_CME and L_hot over 4 decades, at about 1/10 * Refined correlation plot incorporating SORCE/TIM information * SORCE observations of 28-Oct illustrating the impulsive-phase component Discussion of precision of SORCE observations - precision of lower limit good to a factor 2, perhaps upper limit larger still * Bottom-line result: L_tot ~ KE_CME ~ 10L_hot ~ 100L_SXR