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== Plenary Overview Session covering Groups B, C, H, I, and J ==
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Notes of the plenary Overview Session covering Groups B, C, H, I, and J for the [[Solar Cycle 24]] meeting.
'''DeRosa: Magnetism'''
'''DeRosa: Magnetism'''

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Notes of the plenary Overview Session covering Groups B, C, H, I, and J for the Solar Cycle 24 meeting.

DeRosa: Magnetism

1) How does flux at the surface reflect dynamo action? Aimee Norton cartoon showing "tilted toroidal bands". Ephemeral region emergences. Flux "emerges" less frequently at high "unipolarity"?

Judge: what about the scatter vs unipolarity? A: perhaps this is a techincal matter

2) Improving coronal field models. LOS grams may have serious biases. Photospheric vector fields don't deal with the chromosphere properly. Sunsplot flux issues. Chromospheric field interpretation problems. "We don't have any idea" how to map the field, but PFSS is on the way out? The chromosphere is the key to improvements.

Grigis: how about direct coronal field measurements? A: Degeneracy on LOS in optically thick medium. EUV has gone as far as it can go?

Hudson: Div B comment - the problem is 2/3 solved! A: You are very optimistic!

DeWijn: Chromosphere

1) general disagreements on what "chromospheric heating" amounts to. Acoustic waves still an open question. Internal gravity waves ditto. Type II spicules a key to the magnetized chromosphere? Corona... The questions have multiplied!

Liewer: what is a type II spicule? A: Time scale of seconds, number density different from classical (type I) spicules.

2) What is the influence of the beta = 1 surface? Inclined fields. "Chromospheric seismology"? Alfven wave propagation?

Strous: Need simulations to handle the Alfven waves properly

3) Numerical models. Now know that we need to deal with neutrals. But which problems require multi-fluid? Synthetic models are much better in the photosphere. 4) Propagation of free energy through the chromosphere. Is the chromosphere a "force-free factory"? Perpendicular resistivity should be very high in the upper chromosphere - so maybe

Vourlidas: where is the top of the chromosphere? A: A difficult question! "We're switching from doing something wrong in the photosphere to doing something wrong, but different, in the chromospehere?"

Panasenco: Need to include filaments in "chromosphere". Good point... also loops. Need another workshop!

Young: Loops

Doschek: see the movie; it's on the Web

Moore: The Markus movie is impressive; does it show any non-potentiality?

DeForest: Recall the overdense and underdense loop types. "Nanoflares" <=> underdense.

Peter: Modeling

Welsch: The models requested are uninteresting from the point of view of the chromosphere. Why stop at 5 min scales? Cooling is uninteresting?

Mason: compromises are necessary.

Judge: comment on Markus movie. Why are strands illuminated? Note that tubes are less prominent than ribbon-like structures at the footpoints. Why don't we see sheets instead? We understand almost nothing, it appears.

DeForest: it's worse than you think.

Hudson: Markus is showing us the boring part of the corona. The NLFFF group has noted that the strongly sheared internal structures of an active region are not the ones that Markus can image this way

Muglach: Filaments

- 0.1 arcs scales are present, both SOT (over the limb) and also ground-based (on disk), but how do we reconcile the two views. There are "threads" now resolved as the smallest scales. Threads present even in the barbs and show dynamics, e.g. counterstreaming.

- There are dome structures, or arcs on larger scales, now observed to show remarkable dynamical behavior.

- Now have have actual He D3 field observations (Casini). Also 10830. Fields can be up to 80G.

Moore: what direction of B? A: horizontal.

- Time sequence shown in Wang-Muglach (2007).

Moore: There should be good observations if even MDI can see formation. Berger: A question for the community - why does neutral gas follow the field lines. A: collisions.

McLaughlin: Plumes

- There is high FIP in the plumes. - Parnell papers on many-separator reconnection.

(1) what distinguishes plumes/interplumes?

(2) what sustains plumes?

(3) what is the true 3D structure?

(4) what causes the acceleration? ("curtain vs tube" debate; need both energy and momentum)

(5) How far out do plumes extend?

(6) What are the Svalgaard Nobeyama observations?

(7) Spatial distribution/plume suppression. No plumes >85 degrees?

Obligatory Moore question: Step 2 not good, since plumes have mixed polarity.

De Pontieu: what does "explicit detection" require of the observations? A: would like to see propagating waves.

De Pontieu: It's in the Science paper, supporting material.

Judge: Solar cycle of plume statistics and flux concentrations? A: none at solar max, but low-latitude holes may show them (Wang).

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